尘埃 发表于 2006-5-4 09:31:00

[讨论]看到同志文保工作的艰难,由专家的言论和行动想开去……

<p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; LINE-HEIGHT: 12pt;"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-hansi-font-family: 'Times New Roman';">看到同志文保工作的艰难,由专家的言论和行动想开去……</span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; LINE-HEIGHT: 12pt;"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-hansi-font-family: 'Times New Roman';"></span><span style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-hansi-font-family: 'Times New Roman';">报章原文引述:</span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; LINE-HEIGHT: 12pt;"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-hansi-font-family: 'Times New Roman';">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; </span><span style="FONT-SIZE: 15pt; COLOR: #004388; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: Arial; mso-hansi-font-family: Arial; mso-bidi-font-family: Arial;">何祚庥院士:科学家要避免误导公众政府</span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt;"><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; COLOR: black;"><font face="Times New Roman">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; <span style="mso-spacerun: yes;">&nbsp;</span></font></span><span style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-hansi-font-family: 'Times New Roman';">著名院士何祚庥日前在</span><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; COLOR: black;"><font face="Times New Roman">“</font></span><span style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-hansi-font-family: 'Times New Roman';">北京市科协成立</span><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; COLOR: black;"><font face="Times New Roman">40</font></span><span style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-hansi-font-family: 'Times New Roman';">周年座谈会</span><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; COLOR: black;"><font face="Times New Roman">”</font></span><span style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-hansi-font-family: 'Times New Roman';">上以</span><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; COLOR: black;"><font face="Times New Roman">“</font></span><span style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-hansi-font-family: 'Times New Roman';">院士报告运算有误,险让国家错投</span><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; COLOR: black;"><font face="Times New Roman">40</font></span><span style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-hansi-font-family: 'Times New Roman';">亿</span><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; COLOR: black;"><font face="Times New Roman">”</font></span><span style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-hansi-font-family: 'Times New Roman';">为例呼吁</span><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; COLOR: black;"><font face="Times New Roman">——<br/>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;">&nbsp; </span></font></span><span style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-hansi-font-family: 'Times New Roman';">本报讯</span><span style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; COLOR: black;"><font face="Times New Roman"> </font></span><span style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-hansi-font-family: 'Times New Roman';">在</span><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; COLOR: black;"><font face="Times New Roman">“</font></span><span style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-hansi-font-family: 'Times New Roman';">北京市科协成立</span><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; COLOR: black;"><font face="Times New Roman">40</font></span><span style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-hansi-font-family: 'Times New Roman';">周年座谈会</span><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; COLOR: black;"><font face="Times New Roman">”</font></span><span style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-hansi-font-family: 'Times New Roman';">上,何祚庥院士呼吁,广大科技工作者</span><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; COLOR: black;"><font face="Times New Roman">(</font></span><span style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-hansi-font-family: 'Times New Roman';">要</span><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; COLOR: black;"><font face="Times New Roman">)</font></span><span style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-hansi-font-family: 'Times New Roman';">加强自律,避免误导公众和政府。他并希望</span><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; COLOR: black;"><font face="Times New Roman">“</font></span><span style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-hansi-font-family: 'Times New Roman';">科协带领科学工作者与缺乏自律这种错误倾向作斗争</span><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; COLOR: black;"><font face="Times New Roman">”</font></span><span style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-hansi-font-family: 'Times New Roman';">。</span><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; COLOR: black;"><br/><font face="Times New Roman">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;">&nbsp;&nbsp; </span>&nbsp;“</font></span><span style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-hansi-font-family: 'Times New Roman';">曾经有几位院士,联名向国家打了一份报告,想要国家拨款</span><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; COLOR: black;"><font face="Times New Roman">40</font></span><span style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-hansi-font-family: 'Times New Roman';">亿元,发展一个新项目。可是结果发现,报告中的一些基本数据都算错了,其中一个关键技术指标算错了</span><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; COLOR: black;"><font face="Times New Roman">100</font></span><span style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-hansi-font-family: 'Times New Roman';">倍,产量算错了</span><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; COLOR: black;"><font face="Times New Roman">60</font></span><span style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-hansi-font-family: 'Times New Roman';">多倍</span><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; COLOR: black;"><font face="Times New Roman">!</font></span><span style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-hansi-font-family: 'Times New Roman';">后来幸亏有人发现,才及时制止了这个错误。</span><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; COLOR: black;"><font face="Times New Roman">”</font></span><span style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-hansi-font-family: 'Times New Roman';">何祚庥院士说,人们普遍认为院士治学严谨,说话可信度高,但如果科学家不是靠严谨的治学精神为政府决策提供参考,而是依靠自己的影响力去给决策部门施加影响,一旦国家按照这些缺乏严格评审的错误计算进行投入,岂不是要出大错?</span><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; COLOR: black;"><br/><font face="Times New Roman">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;">&nbsp; </span>&nbsp;</font></span><span style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-hansi-font-family: 'Times New Roman';">何院士随后拿起一份报告说:</span><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; COLOR: black;"><font face="Times New Roman">“</font></span><span style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-hansi-font-family: 'Times New Roman';">这是一份调查北京市电动自行车发展对策的报告,由某大学和某交通研究中心合作完成。其中一些支撑结论的关键数据与事实不符。如报告里提到,北京市电动自行车有</span><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; COLOR: black;"><font face="Times New Roman">30%</font></span><span style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-hansi-font-family: 'Times New Roman';">用的是镍镉电池,由于镍镉电池容易造成重度污染,所以这一数据成为一些地方禁止使用电动自行车的关键依据,可全国自行车协会曾做过行业调查,结果发现在全国各大电动车生产厂家中,还找不到哪家厂商生产过使用镍镉电池的自行车,更不知道这</span><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; COLOR: black;"><font face="Times New Roman">30%</font></span><span style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-hansi-font-family: 'Times New Roman';">从何而来?当然也就谈不上因为使用镍镉电池带来的污染问题。</span><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; COLOR: black;"><font face="Times New Roman">”<br/>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;">&nbsp; </span>&nbsp;</font></span><u style="text-underline: wave;"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-hansi-font-family: 'Times New Roman';">何院士还说:</span></u><u style="text-underline: wave;"><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; COLOR: black;"><font face="Times New Roman">“</font></span></u><u style="text-underline: wave;"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-hansi-font-family: 'Times New Roman';">报告里还有一个说法,说每一辆电动自行车占用的道路面积有</span></u><u style="text-underline: wave;"><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; COLOR: black;"><font face="Times New Roman">11.8</font></span></u><u style="text-underline: wave;"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-hansi-font-family: 'Times New Roman';">平方米,骑过电动自行车的人都知道,一辆电动自行车哪里会占到这么大的道路面积?</span></u><u style="text-underline: wave;"><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; COLOR: black;"><font face="Times New Roman">”</font></span></u><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; COLOR: black;"><br/><font face="Times New Roman">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;">&nbsp; </span></font></span><span style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-hansi-font-family: 'Times New Roman';">何祚庥说,作为科技工作者,尤其是院士,大家越是相信你,你治学、说话、办事就越是要严谨,更不能因为利益因素,故意利用自身影响夸大其词。</span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt;"><span lang="EN-US"><font face="Times New Roman">&nbsp;<p></p></font></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt;"><span lang="EN-US"><font face="Times New Roman">&nbsp;<p></p></font></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt;"><span lang="EN-US"><font face="Times New Roman">&nbsp;<p></p></font></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; TEXT-INDENT: 21pt; mso-char-indent-count: 2.0; mso-char-indent-size: 10.5pt;"><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-hansi-font-family: 'Times New Roman';">可怕正是这些个“专家”,自以为一业精,而万物皆通,明明不懂还要强出头,看来此公是“严于律人,宽以待己”,此公根本没有搞清楚自行车占用的道路面积如何定义、如何计算得来的,就以院士身份,评述自己一窍不通的交通问题,估计此公与电动自行车有利益关系,以至于连最起码的考据工作都不做了,就乱放枪,媒体还广为传播。可怕啊!可怕!这种思想的毒害是可怕的。</span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; TEXT-INDENT: 21pt; mso-char-indent-count: 2.0; mso-char-indent-size: 10.5pt;"><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-hansi-font-family: 'Times New Roman';">同志们的文保工作,保护对象,也正是在些个“专家”的指点之下,灰飞烟灭。</span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; TEXT-INDENT: 21pt; mso-char-indent-count: 2.0; mso-char-indent-size: 10.5pt;"><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-hansi-font-family: 'Times New Roman';">一言兴邦,一言丧邦。愿我们的“专家”少些“寻仙求道”,多体味一下儿老祖宗们留下的遗训:忠、孝、礼、义、廉、耻,脚踏实地的问些世事吧……</span></p>

飞哥 发表于 2006-5-4 13:07:00

<p>同意,而且尘埃同志提到的哪位"专家"已经被列为十大"违专家提名"了.</p>

monet 发表于 2006-5-4 16:37:00

&nbsp;希望这些专家真的可以对得起这个称谓。他不仅是学术水平,名誉地位,生活待遇的体现,他包含了人们的信任,更代表一种责任。
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