鸭儿胡同 发表于 2011-11-9 01:22:00

[讨论]什刹海凭什么叫什刹海?

 
<p style="TEXT-INDENT: 30.1pt; LINE-HEIGHT: 150%; mso-char-indent-count: 2.0"><b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 15pt; COLOR: navy; LINE-HEIGHT: 150%; FONT-FAMILY: 楷体_GB2312; mso-hansi-font-family: simsun">十庙之说</span></b><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; COLOR: #464646; LINE-HEIGHT: 150%; FONT-FAMILY: 'simsun','serif'"><?xml:namespace prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" /><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p style="TEXT-INDENT: 28.1pt; LINE-HEIGHT: 150%; mso-char-indent-count: 2.0"><b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; COLOR: #464646; LINE-HEIGHT: 150%; mso-hansi-font-family: 'Times New="New"Roman'; mso-ascii-font-family: 'Times New="New"Roman'">我是在后海边上长大的,打小时候起,我自然而然地认为什刹海周围有十座庙,久而久之就叫什刹海了</span></b><b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal"><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; COLOR: #464646; LINE-HEIGHT: 150%; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New="New"Roman','serif'; mso-bidi-font-family: 宋体">,</span></b><b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; COLOR: #464646; LINE-HEIGHT: 150%; mso-hansi-font-family: 'Times New="New"Roman'; mso-ascii-font-family: 'Times New="New"Roman'">老人们也把什刹海叫“十戒海”,“刹”和“戒”都和庙有关系吧。</span></b><b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal"><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; COLOR: #464646; LINE-HEIGHT: 150%; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New="New"Roman','serif'; mso-bidi-font-family: 宋体"><o:p></o:p></span></b></p>
<p style="TEXT-INDENT: 28.1pt; LINE-HEIGHT: 150%; mso-char-indent-count: 2.0"><b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; COLOR: #464646; LINE-HEIGHT: 150%; mso-hansi-font-family: 'Times New="New"Roman'; mso-ascii-font-family: 'Times New="New"Roman'">什刹海名称的来由有实证的当属广化寺内的存碑。此碑是清朝咸丰二年为重修广化寺而立,碑文顺便提及什刹海一名的由来:“都城西北隅有巨浸曰什刹海,以环海有丛林十故名。广化寺者十刹之一。”</span></b><span style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; COLOR: #464646; LINE-HEIGHT: 150%; FONT-FAMILY: 'simsun','serif'"> </span><b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; COLOR: #464646; LINE-HEIGHT: 150%; mso-hansi-font-family: 'Times New="New"Roman'; mso-ascii-font-family: 'Times New="New"Roman'">我通过市佛教协会秘书长引见,拜访了广化寺佛学院的李老先生,确认“丛林”即是佛家之地的代名词。</span></b><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; COLOR: #464646; LINE-HEIGHT: 150%; FONT-FAMILY: 'simsun','serif'"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p style="TEXT-INDENT: 35pt; LINE-HEIGHT: 150%; mso-char-indent-count: 2.49"><b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal"><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; COLOR: #464646; LINE-HEIGHT: 150%; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New="New"Roman','serif'; mso-bidi-font-family: 宋体"><span style="mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp;</span></span></b><b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; COLOR: #464646; LINE-HEIGHT: 150%; mso-hansi-font-family: 'Times New="New"Roman'; mso-ascii-font-family: 'Times New="New"Roman'">翁立先生在《北京的胡同》一书里甚至列出了观音庵、广化寺、汇通祠、药王庙、关岳庙,火德真君庙、慈恩寺、净业寺、普济寺和广福观等十座古刹的具体名称。另见一篇《单老与什刹海》的文章说:“什刹海有十座古刹,民间说:‘什刹九庵一座庙’,九庵之一的槐宝庵对面就是故宫学家单士元老先生的出生地。”。看来民间对十刹的具体名称是不确定的,但由此演化出什刹海的名称是普遍的认可。</span></b><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; COLOR: #464646; LINE-HEIGHT: 150%; FONT-FAMILY: 'simsun','serif'"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p style="TEXT-INDENT: 24.1pt; LINE-HEIGHT: 150%; mso-char-indent-count: 2.0"><b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal"><span lang="EN-US" style="COLOR: #464646; FONT-FAMILY: 'simsun','serif'">&nbsp;</span></b><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; COLOR: #464646; LINE-HEIGHT: 150%; FONT-FAMILY: 'simsun','serif'"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p style="TEXT-INDENT: 30.1pt; LINE-HEIGHT: 150%; mso-char-indent-count: 2.0"><b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 15pt; COLOR: navy; LINE-HEIGHT: 150%; FONT-FAMILY: 楷体_GB2312; mso-hansi-font-family: simsun">一庙之说</span></b><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; COLOR: #464646; LINE-HEIGHT: 150%; FONT-FAMILY: 'simsun','serif'"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p style="TEXT-INDENT: 28.1pt; LINE-HEIGHT: 150%; mso-char-indent-count: 2.0"><b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal"><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; COLOR: #464646; LINE-HEIGHT: 150%; FONT-FAMILY: 'simsun','serif'">1990</span></b><b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; COLOR: #464646; LINE-HEIGHT: 150%; mso-hansi-font-family: 'Times New="New"Roman'; mso-ascii-font-family: 'Times New="New"Roman'">年整治什刹海后,于南岸立一巨石,刻有北京史地学家侯仁之先生撰写的碑记。碑文中对什刹海名称由来另有其说:“……湖滨梵宇林立,旧有佛寺曰十刹海,寓意佛法如海。今寺宇虽废,而十刹海作为湖泊名称,却已屡见记载。或谐音写作什刹海,而口碑相传又已相沿成习。”</span></b><b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal"><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; COLOR: #464646; LINE-HEIGHT: 150%; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New="New"Roman','serif'; mso-bidi-font-family: 宋体"><o:p></o:p></span></b></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="TEXT-INDENT: 28.1pt; mso-char-indent-count: 2.0"><b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal"><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-fareast-font-family: 宋体">2000</span></b><b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-fareast-font-family: 宋体">年版的《北京地名典》亦对此说有明确记述:德内滨海胡同“宣统时称什刹海,因什刹海(寺)得名。建于万历年间,入清后多次重修。又称什刹海(庵)、什刹海(庙)、十岔海。其周围水域故此得名。此寺现存,坐西向东。有山门三间,大殿三间及配殿等……纪昀《阅微草堂笔记》有关于此寺的记载,现析为民居。”<span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></span></b></p>
<p style="TEXT-INDENT: 28.1pt; LINE-HEIGHT: 150%; mso-char-indent-count: 2.0"><b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; COLOR: #464646; LINE-HEIGHT: 150%; mso-hansi-font-family: 'Times New="New"Roman'; mso-ascii-font-family: 'Times New="New"Roman'">如此说来,什刹海本是一座庙,起了一个怪怪的名字,积水潭因庙易名,改称什刹海?</span></b><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; COLOR: #464646; LINE-HEIGHT: 150%; FONT-FAMILY: 'simsun','serif'"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p style="TEXT-INDENT: 33.75pt; LINE-HEIGHT: 150%; mso-char-indent-count: 2.4"><b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; COLOR: #464646; LINE-HEIGHT: 150%; mso-hansi-font-family: 'Times New="New"Roman'; mso-ascii-font-family: 'Times New="New"Roman'">我好事,专门去找到这座左右了京城一大胜地冠名的古刹,如书中所述,庙尚存,规模不大,山门及大殿的古建筑模样依稀可辨(见图)。</span></b><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; COLOR: #464646; LINE-HEIGHT: 150%; FONT-FAMILY: 'simsun','serif'"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p><strong>以上照片拍于2003年</strong></p>
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<p style="TEXT-INDENT: 33.75pt; LINE-HEIGHT: 150%; mso-char-indent-count: 2.4"><b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; COLOR: #464646; LINE-HEIGHT: 150%; mso-hansi-font-family: 'Times New="New"Roman'; mso-ascii-font-family: 'Times New="New"Roman'">大殿内分住着六户居民,中间原来宽敞的庭院已是棚屋连绵,成了大杂院。询问了院内居住的张、王两位老者,他们说原山门有石匾,刻“古刹什刹海”五字,无落款(与侯老所称“十刹海”不同),地震那年(</span></b><b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal"><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; COLOR: #464646; LINE-HEIGHT: 150%; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New="New"Roman','serif'; mso-bidi-font-family: 宋体">1976</span></b><b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; COLOR: #464646; LINE-HEIGHT: 150%; mso-hansi-font-family: 'Times New="New"Roman'; mso-ascii-font-family: 'Times New="New"Roman'">年)山门受损,新街口房管所派人维修,石匾被拆下,下落不明。此庙</span></b><b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal"><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; COLOR: #464646; LINE-HEIGHT: 150%; FONT-FAMILY: 'simsun','serif'">1957</span></b><b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; COLOR: #464646; LINE-HEIGHT: 150%; mso-hansi-font-family: 'Times New="New"Roman'; mso-ascii-font-family: 'Times New="New"Roman'">年前大殿中还供有佛像,管辖权归大钟寺。此地旧有“铜狮子,铁影壁”之说,附近铁影壁胡同原有铁影壁,现迁至北海公园,铜狮子原在此庙,但没人见过。</span></b><b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal"><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; COLOR: #464646; LINE-HEIGHT: 150%; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New="New"Roman','serif'; mso-bidi-font-family: 宋体"><o:p></o:p></span></b></p>
<p style="TEXT-INDENT: 28.1pt; LINE-HEIGHT: 150%; mso-char-indent-count: 2.0"><b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; COLOR: #464646; LINE-HEIGHT: 150%; mso-hansi-font-family: 'Times New="New"Roman'; mso-ascii-font-family: 'Times New="New"Roman'">若什刹海确因此庙得名,那么复原此庙是有意思的事情,至少可以立个什么永久性的标志,否则百年之后,此旧迹只能是听说过没见过了。</span></b><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; COLOR: #464646; LINE-HEIGHT: 150%; FONT-FAMILY: 'simsun','serif'"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p style="TEXT-INDENT: 24.1pt; LINE-HEIGHT: 150%; mso-char-indent-count: 2.0"><b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal"><span lang="EN-US" style="COLOR: #464646; FONT-FAMILY: 'simsun','serif'">&nbsp;</span></b><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; COLOR: #464646; LINE-HEIGHT: 150%; FONT-FAMILY: 'simsun','serif'"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p style="LINE-HEIGHT: 150%"><b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal"><span lang="EN-US" style="COLOR: #464646; FONT-FAMILY: 'simsun','serif'"><span style="mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp; </span></span></b><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; COLOR: #464646; LINE-HEIGHT: 150%; FONT-FAMILY: 'simsun','serif'"><span style="mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp;</span></span><b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 15pt; COLOR: navy; LINE-HEIGHT: 150%; FONT-FAMILY: 楷体_GB2312; mso-hansi-font-family: simsun">寻找《古刹什刹海》石匾的建议石沉大海</span></b><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; COLOR: #464646; LINE-HEIGHT: 150%; FONT-FAMILY: 'simsun','serif'"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p style="LINE-HEIGHT: 150%"><b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; COLOR: #464646; LINE-HEIGHT: 150%">我寄希望于民盟,<span lang="EN-US">2003</span>年,向民盟市委呈了一个建议案,谈及“</span></b><b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; COLOR: red; LINE-HEIGHT: 150%; FONT-FAMILY: 楷体_GB2312">此石匾于<span lang="EN-US">1967</span>年北京地震时因新街口房管所修缮山门时失踪,距今不过三十几年,因是石制品,相信当存。若能经民盟努力,使其重见天日,将为幸事。当时维修者为新街口房管所下属的德内房管段,若能找到当事人则石匾下落有望。若真有石匾重现之时,望有摄像记录寻访过程。我因工作忙,又势单力薄,不便个人完成此事。盟市委对保护什刹海历史风貌做了大量工作,若能找到这一决定什刹海名称由来的石匾将是很有意义的。此事可由文化专委会完成或委托西城区盟委尝试。</span></b><b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; COLOR: #464646; LINE-HEIGHT: 150%; FONT-FAMILY: 楷体_GB2312">”</span></b><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; COLOR: #464646; LINE-HEIGHT: 150%; FONT-FAMILY: 'simsun','serif'"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p style="LINE-HEIGHT: 150%"><b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal"><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; COLOR: #464646; LINE-HEIGHT: 150%; FONT-FAMILY: 'simsun','serif'"><span style="mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp;</span></span></b><b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; COLOR: #464646; LINE-HEIGHT: 150%; mso-hansi-font-family: 'Times New="New"Roman'; mso-ascii-font-family: 'Times New="New"Roman'">此后,石沉大海,连个回应也没有,从此,我了解了民盟的办事风格,只能说说,办不了实事。</span></b><b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal"><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; COLOR: #464646; LINE-HEIGHT: 150%; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New="New"Roman','serif'; mso-bidi-font-family: 宋体"><o:p></o:p></span></b></p>
<p style="LINE-HEIGHT: 150%"><b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal"><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; COLOR: #464646; LINE-HEIGHT: 150%; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New="New"Roman','serif'; mso-bidi-font-family: 宋体"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></b></p>
<p style="LINE-HEIGHT: 150%"><b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 15pt; COLOR: #464646; LINE-HEIGHT: 150%; mso-hansi-font-family: 'Times New="New"Roman'; mso-ascii-font-family: 'Times New="New"Roman'">我有</span></b><b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal"><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 15pt; COLOR: #464646; LINE-HEIGHT: 150%; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New="New"Roman','serif'; mso-bidi-font-family: 宋体">3</span></b><b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 15pt; COLOR: #464646; LINE-HEIGHT: 150%; mso-hansi-font-family: 'Times New="New"Roman'; mso-ascii-font-family: 'Times New="New"Roman'">个问题:</span></b><b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal"><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 15pt; COLOR: #464646; LINE-HEIGHT: 150%; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New="New"Roman','serif'; mso-bidi-font-family: 宋体"><o:p></o:p></span></b></p>
<p style="MARGIN-LEFT: 18pt; TEXT-INDENT: -18pt; LINE-HEIGHT: 150%; mso-list: l0="l0"level1="level1"lfo1"><span class="b128"><b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal"><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 15pt; COLOR: #464646; LINE-HEIGHT: 150%; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New="New"Roman','serif'; mso-fareast-font-family: 'Times New="New"Roman'"><span style="mso-list: Ignore">1.<span style="FONT: 7pt="7pt"'Times New="New"Roman'">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; </span></span></span></b></span><b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 15pt; COLOR: #464646; LINE-HEIGHT: 150%; mso-hansi-font-family: 'Times New="New"Roman'; mso-ascii-font-family: 'Times New="New"Roman'">什刹海的名称由来基本是由现今的专家按“一庙说”确定了,那么什刹海历经明清数百年,期间就没有人论及其名称由来吗?广化寺的碑不算数吗?</span></b><b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 15pt; LINE-HEIGHT: 150%; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: 宋体; mso-fareast-font-family: 宋体">什刹海寺建于明朝万历年间(<span lang="EN-US">1572-1620</span>),</span></b><span class="b128"><b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 15pt; LINE-HEIGHT: 150%">广化寺的创始年代大约在元朝的<span lang="EN-US">1342</span>年前后,比</span></b></span><b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 15pt; LINE-HEIGHT: 150%; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: 宋体; mso-fareast-font-family: 宋体">什刹海寺早<span lang="EN-US">200</span>多年,规模也远比什刹海寺大得多,怎么就不叫“广化海”呢?</span></b><span class="b128"><b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 15pt; LINE-HEIGHT: 150%">各位《老北京网》的爷们给说说!</span></b></span></p>
<p style="MARGIN-LEFT: 18pt; TEXT-INDENT: -18pt; LINE-HEIGHT: 150%; mso-list: l0="l0"level1="level1"lfo1"><span class="b128"><b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 15pt; LINE-HEIGHT: 150%"></span></b></span><span class="b128"><b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal"><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 15pt; COLOR: #464646; LINE-HEIGHT: 150%; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New="New"Roman','serif'; mso-bidi-font-family: 宋体"><o:p></o:p></span></b></span>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="MARGIN-LEFT: 18pt; TEXT-INDENT: -18pt; LINE-HEIGHT: 150%; mso-list: l0="l0"level1="level1"lfo1"><b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal"><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 15pt; COLOR: #464646; LINE-HEIGHT: 150%; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New="New"Roman','serif'; mso-fareast-font-family: 'Times New="New"Roman'"><span style="mso-list: Ignore">2.<span style="FONT: 7pt="7pt"'Times New="New"Roman'">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;</span></span></span></b><b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 15pt; COLOR: #464646; LINE-HEIGHT: 150%; mso-hansi-font-family: 'Times New="New"Roman'; mso-ascii-font-family: 'Times New="New"Roman'">哪位爷有</span></b><b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 15pt; LINE-HEIGHT: 150%; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: 宋体; mso-fareast-font-family: 宋体">什刹海寺早期的照片或图画吗?</span></b></p>
<p style="MARGIN-LEFT: 18pt; TEXT-INDENT: -18pt; LINE-HEIGHT: 150%; mso-list: l0="l0"level1="level1"lfo1"><b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 15pt; LINE-HEIGHT: 150%; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: 宋体; mso-fareast-font-family: 宋体"></span></b><b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal"><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 15pt; COLOR: #464646; LINE-HEIGHT: 150%; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New="New"Roman','serif'; mso-bidi-font-family: 宋体"><o:p></o:p></span></b>&nbsp;</p>
<p><b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal"><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 15pt; COLOR: #464646; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New="New"Roman','serif'; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-fareast-font-family: 宋体; mso-bidi-theme-font: minor-bidi; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA"><span style="mso-spacerun: yes">3.</span></span><span style="FONT-SIZE: 15pt; COLOR: #464646; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: 'Times New="New"Roman'; mso-bidi-font-family: 'Times New="New"Roman'; mso-ascii-font-family: 'Times New="New"Roman'; mso-bidi-theme-font: minor-bidi; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA">《老北京网》的住持们如果能发动能人把</span><span style="FONT-SIZE: 15pt; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-bidi-font-family: 'Times New="New"Roman'; mso-bidi-theme-font: minor-bidi; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA">什刹海寺山门的石匾找回来算不算是咱</span><span style="FONT-SIZE: 15pt; COLOR: #464646; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: 'Times New="New"Roman'; mso-bidi-font-family: 'Times New="New"Roman'; mso-ascii-font-family: 'Times New="New"Roman'; mso-bidi-theme-font: minor-bidi; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA">《老北京网》一大扬名的善事?至少咱们可以集资(或者游说什刹海管理委员会出资)在</span><span style="FONT-SIZE: 15pt; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-bidi-font-family: 'Times New="New"Roman'; mso-bidi-theme-font: minor-bidi; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA">什刹海寺旧址立一块碑。</span></b><br/></p>

金六爷 发表于 2011-11-9 09:03:00

鼓掌,写的好,下功夫了

大漠孤狼 发表于 2011-11-9 17:44:00

还有一说是“石闸”,老北京人说话含混,讹传成“什刹”了

鸭儿胡同 发表于 2011-11-14 15:19:00

<div class="msgheader">QUOTE:</div><div class="msgborder"><b>以下是引用<i>大漠孤狼</i>在2011-11-13 11:39:00的发言:</b><br/>
<p>如果在明万历年建此庙之前什刹海就已经叫什刹海了的话,有庙、有匾貌似也不能证明什么吧?</p>
<div align="right"><font color="#000066">[此贴子已经被作者于2011-11-13 11:39:22编辑过]</font></div></div>
<p><i><font face="Verdana" color="#61b713"><b>大漠孤狼</b></font> </i>&nbsp;<strong><font size="5">的逻辑是对的,至少要看明万历年建此庙之前什刹海是否就已经叫什刹海了。</font></strong></p>
<p><strong><font size="5">1989年版《辞海》对什刹海的解释:“四周原有十座寺庙,故名什刹海,又称十刹海…”,所以名称的由来仍需考证。</font></strong></p>

北京老豆汁 发表于 2011-11-13 00:29:00

《古刹什刹海》石匾若能找到,既可以为“一庙说”力证,又为保护文物,恢复古建立功。应力争之。

大漠孤狼 发表于 2011-11-13 11:39:00

<div class="msgheader">QUOTE:</div><div class="msgborder"><b>以下是引用<i>北京老豆汁</i>在2011-11-13 0:29:00的发言:</b><br/>《古刹什刹海》石匾若能找到,既可以为“一庙说”力证,又为保护文物,恢复古建立功。应力争之。 </div>
<p>如果在明万历年建此庙之前什刹海就已经叫什刹海了的话,有庙、有匾貌似也不能证明什么吧?</p>
[此贴子已经被作者于2011-11-13 11:39:22编辑过]
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